We had a tragedy in British Columbia that you're aware of, of course, and that was with the ferries.
I have a document here, a sworn statement by the former director of safety, health, and environment at BC Ferries, Mr. Darin Bowland. As you are aware, BC Ferries has had a safety management system in place for some time. Yet, according to Mr. Bowland, BC Ferries was plagued by rampant safety problems. He believes these deficiencies led to the sinking of the Queen of the North and the death of two passengers.
In an era when Transport Canada has a hands-off sort of approach and air operators or regulators are now forced to rely on the good graces of airlines to police themselves or turn themselves in, the first question is, aren't you afraid that your plans to go back out of aviation safety oversight and rely on safety management systems, or SMS, with its self-reporting and non-enforcement, will create similar conditions in aviation?
Secondly, could you please tell me and the committee what kind of comparison Transport Canada has done with other safety management systems in Canada and around the world?
Lastly, how does the safety management system that Transport Canada is proposing for aviation stake up against the safety management system, for example, that BC Ferries operates?