Mr. Chair, to be fair, he was not present. He did not hear the tone. He doesn't even know what words were expressed and he's interpreting a conversation he was not even involved with.
We're totally off topic. It's just not appropriate, Mr. Chair. If the committee wants to bring forward the witness who actually heard the telephone conversation, I think that would be appropriate. I have no difficulty with that. Certainly I'd be appreciative of that. We would like to get to the bottom of it. But to ask this witness for interpretation of a phone call that he wasn't party to seems ridiculous.