The question of violations, whistle-blowers, and what not, again, is an extremely sensitive issue. I believe there is a big difference between protecting whistle-blowers and protecting sources of safety information. I think that what a safety management system should aim for is to protect the sources of safety information on the understanding that if you protect the source, i.e. if you provide the source of safety information with some kind of qualified protection, you are going to be protecting individuals who report.
I insist that this is a very fine line we're walking here, and it's very easy to go one way or the other--