Yes. I think that ever since the caboose, the culture of railroading has been disregarded, disrespected. I think there's been a lot of disrespect in the sense that people don't understand what's going on out there, and they just think that everything's okay. They don't understand the dynamics that are involved, that when a train has to stop fast, it just can't do it. And when it does do it fast, it's horrific. I've been at a derailment where cars were spread out wider than this room, and I walked away.
On April 16th, 2007. See this statement in context.