None that I can see. Basically, the Mississauga mishap was the last watershed event. I call them watershed events. We've had two in my lifetime, that I know of in railway history. The two were Hinton--I was working out of Jasper at the time as a section man--and that was horrific, and then there was the Mississauga mishap. Those are two watershed events. I'm hoping that my friends' deaths make it another one where real change happens, because that was when real change happened in railway culture.
Since we've gone away from cabooses and to SBUs there's been a steady decline in respect for what we do--a downgrading, I call it, of what we do--as far as management goes. I have a hard time when a direct-line supervisor gets on an engine with me and he doesn't even know what a knuckle is. That's the part that joins the two cars together, and he doesn't even know what that is, yet he's my boss.