What experts? Because the reality is that if they haven't worked the track there, they're not experts; they are people who have knowledge, but they're not experts. You've got to work that track to be an expert, and they're not. That's why CN had those derailments, because the experts said they could do it. Their experts tell me I can take a train up the mountain with all these units. Then, gee, when I can't do it, I've got to double the hill. What I say to them is yes, your computer says I can do it, but my engines say no. That's the difference between a virtual railway and a real railway.
On April 16th, 2007. See this statement in context.