Thank you for that clarification.
We've had quite a number of witnesses before us. Obviously, everyone has a different opinion. There are those who really don't like SMS. There are those who are big defenders of SMS. Those are those who support Bill C-6 and SMS. There are those who like SMS but would like to have Bill C-6 amended to make it a little more rigorous in terms of a regulatory framework, making sure the inspectors are in place, etc.
When I look at all the witnesses who have appeared before us, I might be inclined to trust the evidence of those who have the most to lose. Those, in my mind, are the pilots who fly the planes for the airlines that are going to crash if SMS doesn't work and who are going to lose their lives if SMS doesn't work. We had the Canadian Air Line Pilots Association before us. We had the Air Canada Pilots Association before us. Both of them spoke highly favourably of SMS and the fact that their companies and members had implemented SMS. Now they did say they had some concerns, and they talked about regulatory oversight. I think we're going to be addressing that in some amendments we're going to bring forward.
However, one of the key things they did say was that they do not support whistle-blower legislation because whistle-blower legislation works against SMS. They strongly supported the immunity provisions of Bill C-6.
Perhaps I could ask Mr. Rubin, because you're the one who has had a broader comment on the whole SMS system. How would you respond to the very individuals who are going to be flying these planes, who obviously are the experts? They've done a lot of research themselves into this. They've been an integral part of implementing SMS. They're speaking in favour of it. You aren't as warm to the idea.