My position is that you can't get rid of the audit procedure. You have to have audits. Just as the Auditor General is going to audit Transport Canada, you have to have those audits. They need to be done. They've been watered down. The whole program was watered down. Dryden was the birth mother of the audit system.
When I took the audit course in 2000, there was no mention of Dryden. The whole chapter, the whole module on liability, crown liability, Dubin, and Dryden, was removed. When I sat in that course, there were about 30 people, and we all identified ourselves. I identified myself as an enforcement investigator, and that was it, I was singled out for the rest of the course.
The man who was giving the course, in his years of doing audits, had never referred one issue to enforcement. The concern was losing the audit. We don't want to lose the audit. I never understood what that meant, but my job was just to fill in paper and send it into the manager. I was at head office, so I wasn't in the field. We were more writing policy and procedure and delivering the courses on crown liability.