I look at it like trying to run a neighbourhood watch without a cop car. You can't do it. You have to have oversight. And it can't be, as I think I heard the other day, where Mr. Reinhardt was going to work with one airline to look at another. I think that's how I understood the text. If that is the case, that's not workable at all. You need to have people who can come forward in the SMS without fear of reprisal. That's very hard to do when there's money associated and safety associated....
I think the groundwork that has to be done to change the regulatory process is to get more people working for Transport Canada who have actually worked in the industry. Most of the management have never worked in aviation. Merlin Preuss has never worked in aviation; he flew weapons platforms. So all those managers.... We have a director who used to be a tank driver. He doesn't have to take the course to give him the delegated authority. They refuse to take those courses.
So you have to start with Transport knowing what they're doing before they start making the industry do something that.... It's a big change. I like cop cars around the corner.