Gentlemen, I want to go back to Mr. Danford, to your comment on this matter of TRINAT. I'd like you to elaborate. How many people were involved in that? What was it? How long did it go on? You say you don't know what happened to TRINAT after you left. We can ask these questions, but I need to better understand. You say that of the 20 Canadian crashes--and I don't know what all of those were--25% had the root cause of lack of regulatory supervision according to the safety board.
Do you care to elaborate a bit?