Evidence of meeting #54 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was vote.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Franz Reinhardt  Director, Regulatory Services, Civil Aviation, Department of Transport
Susan Stanfield  Legal Counsel, Department of Transport
André Morency  Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, ADM's Office, Department of Transport

6:05 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

—and the NCC's budget has increased by $23,000.

6:05 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, ADM's Office, Department of Transport

André Morency

This amount makes up for what the NCC was supposed to be getting in any case.

6:05 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Will this continue after 2013?

6:05 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, ADM's Office, Department of Transport

André Morency

That is the plan, yes, but we are not there yet; that is five years away.

6:05 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Right. In that case, Mr. Chairman, I withdraw my motion and I will need to check with the NCC to see whether it did in fact receive this money.

6:05 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, ADM's Office, Department of Transport

André Morency

In the main estimates, the NCC still falls under Transport Canada. The budget has been adjusted. As to whether the $23,000 are there, there are always things that are added or eliminated from a budget, from one year to the next. However, rest assured that at least this amount for $23,000 is there.

6:05 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

If this amount has already been subtracted, I don't need to subtract it myself.

6:05 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, ADM's Office, Department of Transport

André Morency

No, it's already been transferred.

6:10 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

However, we have yet to hear the justification.

6:10 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services, ADM's Office, Department of Transport

André Morency

There is nothing else I can tell you: that's what the government decided and that is how it wanted to proceed.

6:10 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Thank you.

I will withdraw that motion since the money apparently has already been taken out, contrary to what I'd been told on May 7.

(Motion withdrawn)

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Thank you, Monsieur Bélanger.

Mr. Jean.

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

I was just wondering, Mr. Chair, if this means that the member is now in favour of a plan for the expansion of the health care campus at the Queensway Carleton.

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

I think that he is not the witness here responding to questions.

Are there any other questions for the deputy minister?

All right. Then I will move to line-by-line. You'll notice that on vote 1 the total for the committee is $238,809,750. That is the total of the vote amount less the current interim supply. So that is the total that we will be voting on.

TRANSPORT Department Vote 1--Operating expenditures..........$318,413,000

(Vote 1 agreed to)

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

For vote 5, you see the total on the far-hand right. That is the number that's derived from the vote amount and the interim supply, $54,945,000.

TRANSPORT Department Vote 5--Capital expenditures..........$73,260,000

(Vote 5 agreed to)

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

For vote 10, $234,858,633 is the total after interim supply is deducted.

TRANSPORT Department Vote 10--Grants and contributions..........$313,145,000

(Vote 10 agreed to)

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Vote 15, $91,657,500 is the outstanding after vote 10. So that's the total.

TRANSPORT Canada Post Corporation Vote 15--Payments to the Canada Post Corporation for special purposes..........$122,210,000

(Vote 15 agreed to)

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Vote 20 is $341,478,000.

TRANSPORT Canadian Air Transport Security Authority Vote 20--Payments to the Canadian Air Transport Security Authority..........$455,304,000

(Vote 20 agreed to)

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Maybe I might ask that you would carry the page, or do you want to do it vote by vote?

6:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

Carry the page.

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Mr. Julian.

6:10 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Mr. Chair, my preference would be just line by line.

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

I'd move a motion that we carry the page, that we deal with it page by page.

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Are there questions on the second page? I guess that's where I'm at. If everybody is comfortable with that, then I think I'll ask if votes 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, and 50 shall carry.

TRANSPORT Canadian Transportation Agency Vote 25--Program expenditures..........$22,611,000 Federal Bridge Corporation Limited Vote 30--Payments to the Federal Bridge Corporation Limited..........$10,450,000 Marine Atlantic Inc. Vote 35--Payments to Marine Atlantic Inc...........$80,980,000 National Capital Commission Vote 40--Payments to the National Capital Commission for operating expenditures..........$76,226,000 Vote 45--Payments to the National Capital Commission for capital expenditures..........$17,935,000 Office of Infrastructure of Canada Vote 50--Operating expenditures..........$27,362,000

(Votes 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, and 50 agreed to)

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Are there any questions on votes 55, 60, 65, 70, or 75? I sound like an auctioneer here.

TRANSPORT Office of Infrastructure of Canada Vote 55--Contributions..........$1,988,017,000 Old Port of Montreal Corporation Inc. Vote 60--Payments to the Old Port of Montreal Corporation Inc. for operating expenditures..........$18,800,000 The Jacques Cartier and Champlain Bridges Incorporated Vote 65--Payments to the Jacques Cartier and Champlain Bridges Inc...........$65,839,000 Transportation Appeal Tribunal of Canada Vote 70--Program expenditures..........$1,207,000 VIA Rail Canada Inc. Vote 75--Payments to VIA Rail Canada Inc...........$169,001,000

(Votes 55, 60, 65, 70, and 75 agreed to)