Evidence of meeting #55 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was sms.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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An hon. member
You don't want to hear someone talk about their stand?
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Liberal
Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON
No, that's not the point. The point is that there's a logic here.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
There's been a motion put on the floor to stand NDP amendments 8.3 and 9 and to deal with amendment G-3 as presented today.
It is subject to debate.
Mr. Julian.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
All those in favour of the motion please signify.
(Amendment allowed to stand)
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
We'll move to amendment G-3.
Mr. Jean.
It's pretty straightforward.
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Conservative
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
I think everyone has seen this. Does anybody have any comment on amendment G-3?
Do we have it in French and English?
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed
Do we have this motion en français?
It is clause 12 on page 15. And on your separate sheet, it's proposed subsections (3) and (4). I just want to make sure everybody has it.
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Conservative
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NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
I want to come back to this issue of protection for the employee who reports outside of SMS. That was the question I had asked you earlier, Mr. Reinhardt.
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Director, Regulatory Services, Civil Aviation, Department of Transport
Yes.
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NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
I'd like to ask it again now that the issue is here with amendment G-3. What is the protection for the employee who reports through SMS and doesn't see resolution, doesn't see the company doing anything about it, and then reports publicly or goes to Transport Canada?
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Director, Regulatory Services, Civil Aviation, Department of Transport
As I told you, we want to make sure the employees use the system first, and that if they do report to the employer, they are protected under proposed subsection (4) here. If they do report a first time, hopefully it will work, the corrective measures will be taken, and everybody will be satisfied. If they're not and then they decide to come to Transport and report again, reprisals cannot be taken against those individuals, because they have used the system.
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NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
But can you give me the specific wording that protects them? I don't see it in amendment G-3.
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Director, Regulatory Services, Civil Aviation, Department of Transport
It says:
The holder of a Canadian aviation document shall not take any reprisal, including any measure that adversely affects the employee's employment or working conditions, against any employee of the holder for the reason only that the employee disclosed in good faith under a process referred to in subsection (1) information regarding alleged actions or omissions of another person.
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Director, Regulatory Services, Civil Aviation, Department of Transport
Correct.
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NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
If that person steps outside SMS...perhaps it's contained elsewhere in the bill, but--
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Director, Regulatory Services, Civil Aviation, Department of Transport
If they have already reported it under SMS, Mr. Julian, they have the protection. Our interpretation is that if they report through the SMS to their company, they are protected. It says that if the individual reports again to Transport about something, the same protection applies.
Reprisals cannot be taken against an employee who has reported through the system.
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Director, Regulatory Services, Civil Aviation, Department of Transport
You don't see it clearly enough?
