Thanks, Mr. Chair.
I'm having some difficulty with this whole debate, because usually the movement of hazardous materials falls under safety plans and not security plans. I know we're making a great issue of it and have spent a lot of time on it, but in terms of most movement of goods, you deal with the safety issue rather than the security issue. What happens if there is a spill?
I'm not sure of your intent, Brian, but if it were a load of gasoline going through a tunnel, is it a security problem or is it a safety problem? I contend it is a safety problem. We're probably putting this in the wrong place, even if it were a good idea.
If we're going to spend so much time on this, Mr. Chair, I would suggest we leave it until later, until maybe our witnesses can come back with the so-called traffic security, and we'll look at the content of that legislation. But we have a lot of the bill, and we can pass a lot of that today and get this off and come back later to clause 15, and this article too...to proceed and get some work done.
Above all, I think most people around the table...and, Brian, I don't know how you call this security. Movement of hazardous waste or hazardous material is a security problem. Maybe my legal definition is not...I'm not a lawyer, but what is security?