I would presume that the proponents of projects will not be seeking increase in fines. So for this I would rather look at what the government has passed in recent legislation, or even at what this committee has done in the last year. For instance, in the Aeronautics Act, there were significant increases in fines to what we used to have; and the same thing was done previously to the Canada Shipping Act.
The fact is that $5,000 for the proponent of a big project, a multi-million-dollar project, is pocket change. And yet that's the only power that we have now. So we think the amount of the fine should be big enough to discourage somebody from not obeying the law. Today it's not; it's a pure joke.