Indeed, I think that was the point of my friend.
I asked Justice Moshansky this question. Would the accident at Dryden have happened if an effective safety management system would have been in place at that time? He said no, it likely would not have happened, because if there is ice on a plane wing, it would be impossible, no matter how many inspectors you had--even if you had an inspector for every aircraft--to see that. The possibility was very minor. Indeed, he endorsed the SMS system--an effective SMS system. I did want to make that point.
The final question I have is on Air Transat. You made mention that Air Transat was an example you used for the SMS system. I would like you to tell us why you used Air Transat and how long, to your knowledge, they've been using the safety management system. This government is trying to put that into the aeronautics industry, but it is currently being blocked, and it has been for months, by the NDP.