I'd rather examine that whole issue more thoroughly than give you an off-the-cuff answer. I'm not above giving off-the-cuff answers, but I've kind of learned where I should and where I shouldn't. So I'd rather not jump into that one, Mr. Julian.
One of the other things we mentioned was.... I was in auditing and I got away from it, and I'm now a director of the State Bank of India (Canada). I'm on the audit committee, and I'm dealing with the auditor when he comes in with the annual results.
That's one of the things that struck us. There were complaints from the railway companies about audits where there was no follow-up. Nobody sat down with management and said, “Here are the findings of our audit”, let alone addressing the public. The auditors weren't coming back to the railway companies and saying, “Here's where we found the problems”. Do you know what I mean?