Oh, okay.
One of the things that has come to me, and I think the words have been well used, is that we need a “cultural change” in the safety management system. It's actually become a regime that needs to be changed to implement such a cultural change, I believe. You talked about it being a journey, and I can't disagree with that. As we look at changing a number of significant things, with the greatest number of employees we are dealing with here, I think it always is a journey, and sometimes generational things have to be turned over before these cultural changes will happen.
One of the things you talked about was a resistance to change--not an objection, but sometimes a resistance to change. I guess it's a bit in our human nature to sometimes get our backs up against change. In terms of bringing the inspections or audits together under one inspection auditor, or safety officer, I think it's called, what sort of education and training is there? What has the approach been to them, so there would be a higher level of acceptance of that responsibility?
I think you mentioned getting away from the tire-kicking part we've been accustomed to, and actually making sure—as in everything else we have to do now—that it is documented and shown, so that there's an audit portion to that inspection.
Can you just help me a little bit? How are you working towards that?