--because there's this barrier that comes up, and most of them just can't figure out why, because it doesn't make sense. There's no water; there's no habitation within it.
The second part of it is that you represent a number of rural municipalities, as do I, in terms of your chairmanship, Mr. Johnson. Do you hear through your municipalities about private landowners? Do you hear from farmers, for example, who have a creek halfway or two-thirds of the way through their farm and they're just wanting to put in a culvert so they can get from one side to the other? What happens is that you tend to hear from people, “Well, I can't get permission, so I'll get repentance at some time.” Then the weekend comes along, and they'll put the culvert in. That's not what they want to do, but when we put in barriers that they cannot overcome--either timeline or financially--then those sorts of things happen.
I'm hoping that in your discussions and in your recommendations--also when you come forward--that you can deal with those types of issues.