I share Mr. Bell's view that they have a function to play as a moderate penalty system, and they can probably be useful to make sure we get compliance.
You focus most of your discussion on the definition of navigable waters. I'd like to go to recommendation number two in the FCM's submission—a request that the definition of work be amended to exclude minor works. Could I get you to expand on what you mean by minor works? Could you also provide us with some examples of situations where, using the current definition, minor works have been treated in a way that has resulted in substantial delays and increases in cost?