We're in the same position, but that is why we favour mediation. Mediation is a non-confrontational approach, and we have been involved in a number of mediations. I'm very happy to say that in all those in which I've been personally involved, we've resolved the issues. In mediation we normally pattern the solution to the benefit of both parties. We both walk away from it happy.
That is why, in our approach to the shippers, we're saying let's start by talking; let's start through mediation. We know that mediation is not always successful, but let's do what other people do in the business and go to commercial arbitration. We have numerous contracts with shippers across Canada in which we have built-in commercial arbitration. That's what we do. We use those provisions. We think those provisions are better than the FOA approach where the winner takes all.