I know I'm not going to have enough time, so I'm going to do this in two stages.
I think everybody around the table wants to be fair to every person who appears before the committee. I've looked at your section 3 and section 7 proposals. I'm wondering, and I might go through one and then the other, if you could be a little bit more specific about exactly what you are proposing, because what you've suggested is.... It's a principle on a position.
I asked the minister last week on section 7 about an authentification and certification process. I'm wondering whether you can be more specific, because otherwise I'm not going to pay any attention to this at all. What is it you want when you say you want a certification process that the shippers have to go through? The minister says they're going to do something sectoral. What do you want?