The first one, to be rather strict, is that this is a pure division-of-powers constitutional argument, and that was decided and set by the Supreme Court of Canada in June 2007. So that's the cold, calculated answer.
The second part of it is that I can't speak from an association perspective as to the relationships between each port and each city. I can speak to my own only. I know that ours is a collegial one and it's one that is constant and is mutually beneficial. You've heard those points being made before. But unless there are others here at the table who want to talk about their particular ports, we haven't taken a pan-Canadian and association position on a port-by-port basis of that.