So it's huge, and the population is not very big. That's where they have the advantage that you can get people to take the train, and the train is used heavily for many purposes, right?
They have also been a bit creative in looking at other policies, that where certain flights, short-haul flights, are now not permitted between certain cities, the train becomes the mode. You have the bus, you have your car, but planes may not be permitted.
When we looked at this, and looking at the governance model, the sort of policy mould for this, we've asked to look at that. Are there things we need to think about in Canada if we want to make this more attractive, a sort of similar experience to Europe? Ultimately, we just don't have the population density they do in the United States or in Europe. That's a reality.