There would certainly be shifts in ridership that would result if high-speed rail were developed in that corridor. I mentioned when giving my brief that I would expect a good deal of short-haul flight traffic, particularly business travellers, to use high-speed rail if it provided the downtown-to-downtown service in two hours between Ottawa and Toronto, or Montreal and Toronto, for example. If that same time-saving applied to longer trips, then business travellers on longer journeys travelling from southwestern Ontario to London, for example, or travelling from Quebec City to Ottawa would get significant benefits.
We have seen that in Europe. When high-speed rail was introduced between Paris and Lyon, and Paris and Geneva, most of the air traffic on those routes disappeared, unless it was connecting traffic from intercontinental flights, for example. You do get a shift like that. At the same time, the rail network is efficiently bringing many new passengers to airports to allow the use of the longer-haul intercontinental and transcontinental flights.
Also, with relation to the bus companies, certainly the types of destinations and the times of day.... Mr. Langis has pointed out how a bus is able to offer many more trips between Montreal and Quebec, for example. There are 19 per day. In Europe, some of the rail networks provide that many trips, but in other cases it's a hybrid of the two. At certain times of day a bus will provide the service. A bus can provide different stopping patterns from high-speed trains. But there needs to be a balance found for each element of a multi-modal system to perform in the most effective way. Price comes into that as well, as Mr. Langis has said. The bus can serve a lower-fare-paying passenger.