Well, I think one of the things is not to just look at ridership on a specific train and what existing travel patterns are. I think we need to do modelling that looks at the potential for growth in different modes and the impact that construction of a high-speed rail corridor can have on the need for us to expand our existing highway infrastructure. If you want to talk about a system that's heavily subsidized, it's the roads. People simply have to have a vehicle and be prepared to pay for their gas and whatever the taxes are on that at the time. We can't continue to keep widening these roads.
The beauty of rail is that you can increase frequency without having to increase your base infrastructure, and you can carry a remarkable number of passengers without having these kinds of significant incremental costs that you have when you widen Highway 401 or you widen the Queen Elizabeth Way in some of the very restricted corridors we have now.
We're suggesting you need to look at the impact and the benefits, some of which don't have a financial price tag, some of which do, but all of which have an impact on the way we live and the way people's health is affected as well.