Well, they believe that the doubling of the daily service from one per day to two per day would add about 35,000 visitors per year to Vancouver, which is not a large number, but that the ultimate volumes are much, much higher. And not too many recent studies have been done.
The challenge we're going to face, which I think has been touched on in the other presentations, is that if we get up to the speeds that are possible with conventional rail, we have to work out our relationships with the freight carriers because of the enormous amount of freight that goes back and forth on those tracks. I think you've had testimony earlier that you can't share freight and passenger rail much above 90 miles an hour or something in that range.
We need to make these incremental steps and start long-term planning, because the real gains would come with higher speeds--not even the highest speeds--but those will require quite a few investments to make sure we don't harm goods traffic. I don't have a specific number, but certainly for a long time they've believed that we're the logical end of this route, not Bellingham or just north of Seattle.