Evidence of meeting #21 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 40th Parliament, 3rd session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

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Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Bonnie Charron

Joe Volpe Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

I'm not sure. I thought Mr. Bevington was.... If you don't mind my hearing it again, I'd—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

If I may, I took the amendment the way he proposed it. If he wants to propose another amendment, a subamendment, he'll have to do that. He asked to have one word changed, “cover” to “support”, and that's what's on the floor right now. We can have debate on it. If I have just one second....

The rule is that we have to deal with the subamendment first, and if he chooses to submit another one, we can deal with that at the time.

Mr. Bevington, are you comfortable with that?

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Dennis Bevington NDP Western Arctic, NT

Well, those are the rules.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Okay. If there's no debate on that, I would ask the question.

All those in favour of the subamendment?

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Bonnie Crombie Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

Mr. Chair, is there any more debate? Aren't we debating this?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

I just asked. Nobody put their hand up.

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Bonnie Crombie Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

I'll talk to it.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

I'm sorry. I have called the vote.

(Subamendment agreed to)

We're now back dealing with the amendment as amended.

I have Mr. Dhaliwal on my list.

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Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Newton—North Delta, BC

No, I'll skip to the other ones for now.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Okay. Is there anyone else?

Mrs. Crombie.

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Bonnie Crombie Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

Mr. Chairman, this has been a long and arduous process to discuss amendments, new amendments, subamendments, and amendments to subamendments. I don't feel that the new amended amendment respects the principle or the original intent of the bill as it was presented in the House of Parliament, which we all voted on unanimously. Why or how there have been 11th hour changes—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Mr. Jean.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Relevance--

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Bonnie Crombie Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

I am speaking to the amended amendment, sir.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

No, we're speaking to the amendment as amended.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

The subamendment passed.

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Bonnie Crombie Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

So what are we speaking to?

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

That was my point.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

We're speaking to the amendment that was....

I will recognize Monsieur Laframboise, but for clarity, we are discussing the amendment as subamended by Mr. Bevington to remove the word “cover” and add the word “support”.

Monsieur Laframboise, a point of order.

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Mario Laframboise Bloc Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel, QC

I have just one question. I would like the law clerk to tell us whether the wording would be in order if the subamendment were applied.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

That doesn't change the amendment we're now debating. It changes the words, but we've already agreed that the amendment is in order based on the vote in the committee.

So we can move forward and debate it with the word “support” as opposed to “cover”.

Mrs. Crombie.

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Bonnie Crombie Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

There have just been so many amendments and subamendments, it is difficult to follow.

I want to ensure that the original intent of the bill is maintained and preserved in the subamendment, the amendment to the amendment of the original amendment. So what we want to preserve is that the minister is the individual who is responsible for allocating the land, for the cost of--

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Mr. Jean, a point of order.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Nowhere does subclause 7(2) use the word “minister”. It talks about the council spearheading a fundraising campaign. It doesn't talk about the minister. So could she please be relevant?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

There is no reference, Mrs. Crombie, and I would ask, Mrs. Crombie--

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