Evidence of meeting #32 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was clause.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Simon Dubé  Director, Portfolio Management, Crown Corporation Governance, Department of Transport

Noon

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Mr. Jean.

Noon

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

On a point of order, Mr. Chairman, what I've heard from Mr. Nadeau is exactly what we've done. They asked for an enhancement of the board for representation from Quebec. The government listened. We agreed to that. What have we not done that they've asked for? We have done everything that they've asked us to do.

My suggestion is that we move on. It appears to me that Mr. Nadeau is trying to...I'm not sure what.

We've already dealt with this. “National Interest Land Mass” is in the act already. All of the other sections are within the act. Even if Bloc amendment 14 is passed, it still won't make any sense in the bill itself because of all the other amendments that have been made.

So I don't really understand the relative move by Mr. Nadeau.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

That's not a point of order, but I would suggest that we are dealing with government amendment 8.

Monsieur Nadeau.

12:05 p.m.

Bloc

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

Mr. Jean, we have lost on the entire issue of the National Interest Land Mass, even though this is a request that comes from the Government of Quebec. It is not in what was passed here today.

In that spirit, simply to clarify things, I would like to note that you were in the House of Commons on November 27, 2006, to vote on the motion to recognize the Quebec nation. In the House of Commons, we are going to recognize fully what a nation represents, including all of the responsibilities that it must have. So it is not up to an arm of the federal government like the National Capital Commission to make decisions about the territory belonging to Quebec, even if the responsibilities of the two nations, Quebec and Canada, overlap in that organization's mandate.

That is the spirit in which I make these comments, Mr. Jean. Rest assured that I will defend the interests of Quebec by proposing amendments to bills like this one that reflect our vision of the Quebec nation.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Monsieur Proulx.

12:05 p.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Could we hear the answer to my question to...?

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

We're going to go to Monsieur Dubé.

12:05 p.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Thank you.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

The question was, have you received any other communications from the Government of Québec in regard to this issue?

12:05 p.m.

Director, Portfolio Management, Crown Corporation Governance, Department of Transport

Simon Dubé

I'm not aware of any direct communication between ministers and provincial ministers. Personally, I was with Madame Marie Lemay, the CEO of the National Capital Commission, in Québec about a month ago, in early October. We briefed a few officials from the provincial government and the intergovernmental secretariat in Québec City about Bill C-20, about what it is about. So it was a good discussion. At the end, they did indicate that they needed to continue discussions among themselves and they would let us know if there would be anything else.

I haven't heard from them directly since then, and I'm not aware of any further ministerial correspondence on that topic.

12:05 p.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Thank you.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

No further debate?

(Amendment agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

(Clause 19 as amended agreed to)

We're now moving to a new clause, clause 20.1, government amendment number 9.

Monsieur Proulx.

12:05 p.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

You had ruled that if G-8 was accepted, was approved, BQ-14 and BQ-15 would not be allowed.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Yes, we've already passed it.

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Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Thank you.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Clause 20.1, government amendment number 9 on page 35.

Mr. Jean.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

This changes to reflect the addition of section 22.1. Mr. Chair, I understand that the act is amended by this particular section, which makes it consistent with the Financial Administration Act. It requires that it must include information respecting the commission's activities with regard to Gatineau Park and the greenbelt, and must include the acquisition of any property by the commission located in the greenbelt or Gatineau Park.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Comments?

Monsieur Nadeau.

12:05 p.m.

Bloc

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

Mr. Chair, we will be voting against this amendment in order to maintain a consistent position.

We support the idea of the Greenbelt, but it would have to be defined.

Thank you.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Thank you.

No further comment?

(Amendment agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

We're moving to schedule 1, government amendment number 10, on page 36 if you need a reference.

Mr. Jean.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Yes, Mr. Chair, this is just to reflect what we've already discussed in detail, that it would be amended to include the following: “Description of the Boundaries of the Greenbelt”.

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Comment?

This is referring back, I think, to the schedule that we talked about at the start.

12:10 p.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Although we don't have the wording. Okay.

(Amendment agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

(Schedule 1 as amended agreed to)

(Schedules 2 and 3 agreed to)

12:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Shall the preamble carry?

12:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.