Yes, it is, and that's part of what we're saying, that short lines and smaller operating trains should be regulated and have the burden in accordance with risk. But as far as an operating certificate—that's what your question directly asks—are they going to need one? Yes, they will need one. It seems odd that when it comes to rail safety we would impose a full operating certificate on goods and services but not people as they move. It would be difficult to argue that you shouldn't have an operating certificate and the kinds of things that entails when it comes to GO Transit.
On February 8th, 2011. See this statement in context.