Then why not shorten the relationship to a direct relationship? I don't understand the argument there. You have an indirect relationship that you're complaining about in that regard. Why not shorten it up and sit down and talk about what elements go into the regulation for a rail operating certificate? One thing I've learned about Transport Canada is that they've been very flexible and accommodating in a lot of ways in addressing safety issues.
As well, somebody brought up the issue of safety management systems and that they've invited Transport Canada to do audits of their system. Was that you, Mr. Percy? Are you the one who raised that?