Unfortunately, it is not always the case that Transport Canada delegates to people with no conflict of interest. It's a small world, and some of those people are in a clear conflict of interest. They might be delegated to inspect the very people who pay them for other services.
I appreciate the standards that professional engineering degrees and so on confer. But at the same time, why wouldn't we set up something appropriate in the first place that says that anybody who has been delegated the power of the minister, which is what this is, can't have a conflict of interest? What way would you propose? What is the best way to avoid conflict of interest? In the case of the inspectors, make sure that they all work for the federal public service. That's what we're saying.