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Evidence of meeting #51 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Chad Mariage  Procedural Clerk

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

Oh, okay. So that means it can be moved if clause 2 is defeated.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Si.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

Okay.

Then I think that's fine.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Okay, then.

Are there no other comments?

(Clause 2 negatived)

Mr. Jean.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Mr. Chair, in relation to the heading before that clause, will that be dealt with at the end of clause-by-clause?

Yes: the clerk nods affirmatively.

Thank you.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

I have already announced that it's postponed until the end.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

(On clause 3)

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

We are at government amendment two.

Mr. Jean.

March 1st, 2011 / 3:55 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

This is in relation to section 17. Section 17, of course, is not part of Bill C-511. However, to clarify, and for greater certainty, it...for it is an offence to contravene both a provision of the act and any regulation made under it.

Specifically, Mr. Chair, right now the wording is, “Every corporation that contravenes any provision of this Act ”, but it does not refer to regulations. What we're asking is that government amend it so that it will include this act, or the regulations in particular. We want to give greater clarification and also make sure that, obviously, once the regulations are published, enforcement provisions would apply there as well.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

The amendment is in order.

I'll open the floor for comment.

Mr. McCallum.

4 p.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

We're fine with that.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

You're fine? Okay.

(Amendment agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

(Clause 3 as amended agreed to)

(On clause 4)

We are on government amendment three.

Mr. Jean.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Mr. Chair, I apologize, but my usual cheat sheets are not helping me very much in relation to the order of it, so I'm going to have deal with it—

4 p.m.

Liberal

Joe Volpe Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

Can I help you out?

4 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Please, Mr. Volpe, I would be more than happy for you to propose the amendment.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Joe Volpe Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

I got the PMO notes instead.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Thank you. I appreciate that.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Joe Volpe Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

I think, Mr. Chairman, you'll find that what the parliamentary secretary may want to do and we may want to think about in dealing with this amendment, once the issue of the negatived clause 2 is dealt with later on.... One can only deal with the regulations once the authority for them has been established, and that won't be established until the negative on clause 2 is dealt with.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Mr. Jean.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

That's not my understanding, Mr. Chair, but as I said, I apologize. I'm having a little bit of a problem working through amendment G-3. My understanding is that it requires a consistency of safety-related defects, but I....

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Mr. McCallum.

4 p.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

The first part of it simply removes the clause dealing with the brake override, and we have an amendment to propose to that amendment. I'm not quite sure when it's in order. We want to amend that clause but not eliminate it.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Okay, I'm going to work on the assumption that amendment G-3 has been introduced and suggest to the committee that if amendment G-3 is adopted by the committee, amendment L-1 cannot be moved.

Are there comments?

Mr. McCallum.

4 p.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

We oppose simply removing that section on the brake override system, but we have alternative wording to propose that the government might agree with.

I'm not sure whether it's in order to present this now. You could say it's an amendment to their amendment, I suppose.

4 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Again, more than anything we have to hear whether the parliamentary secretary is willing to accept a favourable or honourable amendment to his amendment. We would have to view that before we could rule whether amendment L-1 cannot be moved. As it stands right now, if amendment G-3 is adopted, amendment L-1 cannot be moved.