I think both companies that were mentioned are private. Both Air Canada and Aveos are private companies. Air Canada, of course, has to be in compliance with the Air Canada Public Participation Act, which they must do, and which they will do. When I meet with them, they give assurances that they will be in compliance with the act, and that's what we would expect. But they are public companies. They were devolved from crown corporations and are public companies, and they have been for quite a number of years.
On March 8th, 2011. See this statement in context.