We have members of unions, but it's very different. It really depends on the region you are in. For example, in the Catholic regions, workers are not very well organized, not like they are in other regions. It really depends on the company you are with and the region you are in. In general, we can say that Swiss workers are not very well organized compared with those in other countries such as France or Italy, for example, if you are comparing European countries.
Nevertheless, we have regular discussions with the trade unions. We discuss fringe benefits and how wages are developing. The trade unions are important partners, even though not many workers are organized into unions.