After that, it was Mr. Lebel. There have been quite a few ministers in the past three years. I can say that we were able to meet with Mr. Lebel. He was aware of the problem, but when it comes time to take action, it's always the same story. We met with Mr. Paradis, the natural resources minister. We met with everyone. But without a shared vision and the desire to take a stand and say enough is enough, we can't move forward. Do you understand? We feel somewhat as though we are preaching in the wilderness.
I agreed to appear before you today because I thought it was a positive forum. To be frank, I'm almost sick of fighting. I will do my own thing in my business, and when everyone else wakes up, they wake up. You know, there is not much we can do. You can't exactly force a horse three times your size to drink water; what can you do?