Denis Coderre at the Transport, Infrastructure and Communities Committee

I agree with that, but the issue is that there's a lot of interest at play here.

So okay, we want to make it happen. What we need is probably a public-private partnership, of course. So we have the industry on one side, but we have the issue of the capital cost, as Mr. Davies mentioned.

This is for both of you. What should the role of the federal government be? Should it be based on policy? Should there be a new infrastructure program? What kind of partnership do you feel the federal government should get involved in? And then I'll ask Mr. Davies.