There is an expectation that VIA run as economically as possible. They are at arm's length from government and they do have the flexibility to adjust their schedules to meet demand and also to utilize their assets to the maximum.
While there have been reductions in that area, there have been increases in the frequency of the number of VIA trains travelling from Ottawa, Toronto, and Montreal. We're also adding another line directly from Ottawa to Quebec City. That's going to be announced on Monday. So we are adding routes as well.
Now, many of these trains, particularly in the winter, have been running empty. So that is not good.