Thank you.
That leads me to my second question.
You mentioned that under tough economic times one of the weaknesses of P3 procurement is the difficulty of finding private partners willing to make negotiations that are favourable to the public's interest. It's sort of the idea that the private partner looks at it as how beggars can't be choosers, and the public partner might make an unfavourable negotiation. You can look at examples such as twinning the Port Mann Bridge, where the private bidder walked away and the public ended up saving $200 million through public financing of that project.
In comparing P3 and public procurement, what's the method of determining the savings that can come to taxpayers? Secondly, can you outline examples of savings to taxpayers through public sector procurement and service provision?