Okay.
My next question is directed to Mr. Phillips. As a shipper in my prior life—I will admit that it was not with rail—I did a lot of shipping with trucking companies across North America. I'm empathetic to some of the concerns that you, and in fact all of the parties, bring forward in this matter. But from what I've heard of the testimony today, I also have to be quite honest. There seems to be this sense that if the railways were a much more competitive industry, if there were 10 railways in Canada, all of these issues you've talked about wouldn't exist. I don't know whether you've ever dealt with trucking companies across North America. Do you really truly believe that having 10 railway companies across Canada and the resulting competition would solve all these issues that you've brought forward today?