I would say that, if Mr. Gratton wasn't always with Mr. Tougas and I were to speak with his customers, we could probably come to an agreement in most cases.
When you create legislation that allows not only for commercial negotiations, but also for the use of a regulatory tool to impose something the other party does not want to provide, you have an unprecedented situation on your hands. You don't see that in any other transportation sector. That happens only with railways because of this residual regulation that comes into play regularly.