Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
It is quite curious to see shippers on one side who are completely in favour of this bill and railway people on the other side who are completely opposed. There has to be a reality that will balance the two.
Basically, what you are saying is what the minister said.
I quote:
We are not dealing with the normal free market. The reality is that many shippers have limited choices when it comes to shipping their products. It is therefore necessary to use the law to give shippers more leverage to negotiate service agreements with the railways.
So that's the issue.
Do you believe that the minister is out of touch, that he doesn't understand the business, and therefore that he's misleading us?