Fair enough.
Regarding the rail companies' position regarding that particular trade, do you think the provisions that are presented here—we'll skip Sydney—in the proposed legislation are...? I noticed there was a serious hesitation when it came to the arbitration. I'm just trying to get a better understanding, especially from the port authorities that most of you represent, of where that line is.
When would you stop wanting to seek mediation versus arbitration? I don't have a clear understanding of how you see that. All of you seem to be saying at this point that arbitration is too heavy a tool, but at the same time you're saying if it weren't for that tool the rail companies wouldn't necessarily be as motivated to come up with agreements.
Do we need arbitration or not?