By the way the Conservative minister you quote didn't actually say specifically it was the PFI. I'm going to get to the quote on the brink of financial collapse. He actually blamed the Labour Party for bringing parts of the system to the brink of financial collapse. I'm quoting an article from the The Guardian in the U.K. in terms of the policy of PFI.
I think the statistical point is that when you have hospitals, and it's many that are not on the brink of financial collapse, PFI is not in and of itself the problem.
I want to ask most pointedly, Mr. Moist—because one of your previous answers wasn't as clear as I thought it should be—is there any P3 model that is workable and that you would recommend?