Through the chair, there may be a conflict of public pursuits here, because I do think that it's in the interests of the Canada Pension Plan to make rates of return and deliver pensions to Canadians.
The other public test, though, is this: is the 407 in the interests of the ratepayers of Ontario, who are underwriting it for 90 or 99 years? I'll say 90. Mr. McGuinty ran for office saying, “When I'm premier, I'm going to get to the bottom of this deal and I want some of those profits for the people of Ontario.” He was told by the courts to forget it.
So it may be a great highway for institutional investors like CPP. Mr. McGuinty, at least for one person—I agree with him on this—thought it was a bad decision by the Harris government for the people of Ontario. There's a convergence of different public issues here.