They can mean that, and I hope they don't.
Dr. Loxley quotes Larry Blain, the former head of Partnerships BC. They only get funding for Partnerships BC—and they helped to consider the Canada Line—if they get P3s. That's how they get their funding, so it's not an arm's-length, sober second look. Larry Blain said that public sector comparators won’t do you much good anyway because by playing with discount rates and so-called risk transfers he can make the public sector as bad as he wants to, to make the private sector look good.
Through the chair, as the bottom line, I would recommend that any member of this committee go to the FCM convention where there are 2,000 local councillors and mayors, folks from across Canada. We're there every year, and we're not big players there. We have a booth. We have people coming up to talk to us. These politicians are under immense pressure to fix up their towns and cities, and they're quite open to a collaborative way to do that. They don't want to be told how to do it but that's the way many are feeling, way beyond the city of Regina.