I'm not talking about the public sector, Mr. Mortimer. We're not talking about the public sector; we're talking about the infrastructure program. We're not talking about an employee of this government or that government. We're not talking about public sector workers. I'm talking about those construction workers who deal with infrastructure funding—whether it's public transit or construction workers.
In general, on average, putting aside the office workers and putting aside the government officials, I'm talking about the companies that have unions versus companies that don't, both in this case being private companies. Are the wages fairly comparable on average or not?