I think Montreal is a special case. I think there are inquiries and arrests that are taking place, which helps to explain what's going on there.
The concept of habituation is that we've always done it this way and we're going to continue doing it this way. That's what the U.S. Conference of Mayors' report has pointed out. They're continuing to buy, for instance, ductile iron piping. Before that it was cast iron, and now it's ductile, but the ductile iron is thinner walled so it lasts for a shorter period of time underground. People think it's strong because it's iron, you see. They continue to limit the specifications to exclude modern materials like PVC. That's procurement habituation.