Evidence of meeting #12 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was investigation.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Steve Charpentier  Director of Flight Safety, Department of National Defence
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Philippe Grenier-Michaud
Jim Armour  Senior Investigator, Department of National Defence
Paul Dittmann  Chief Investigator, Department of National Defence
Alex Weatherston  Counsel, Legal Advisory Services, Department of Justice

10:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Committee work is going to go on whether it's here or not. But there was, I guess, a motion in the House yesterday that needed unanimous consent, and the opposition—

10:05 a.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

Which opposition...?

10:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

The official opposition, the NDP, didn't give that approval. So what it means at this point, unless something changes, is that there will be no travel as far as the rail study, which personally I find very disturbing, because I think that's an important part of the rail safety study. That's all that I can tell you, Mr. McGuinty.

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

Was it travel for all committees, Mr. Chair, or just this committee?

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

All committees, I believe.

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

All committees....

10:10 a.m.

The Clerk

There's FEWO, finance, and also HUMA, and us that travel was not—

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

So all requests for travel have been blocked in the House.

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Yes.

Mr. Watson.

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

Jeff Watson Conservative Essex, ON

On that point, that affects immediately the three proposals that were approved for travel with respect to the east coast, west coast, and the U.S., but we had also discussed the potential of a day or two trip to Lac-Mégantic. Would that rule out something along those lines or not?

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

I can't give a specific answer to that, Mr. Watson, because that request hasn't officially gone in. For now, I'm hoping that cooler heads will prevail. I think the travel on this is an essential part of rail safety. If we're all really serious about it, cooler heads will prevail. For now until something changes, we're just going to continue with the meetings. If we're not travelling on those weeks that we had planned to, we will fill them with meetings here in Ottawa. That's all we can do.

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

David McGuinty Liberal Ottawa South, ON

Mr. Chair, with all due respect, there are 10 extremely busy parliamentarians here. I don't think many of us are in a position to wait to find out what's happening in the next two or three months. My calendar is booking right through until the end of June right now in terms of travel, meetings, speaking engagements, etc. So we need to have a drop-dead date by which we decide what's being proposed here as a work plan.

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

If cooler heads prevail, Mr. McGuinty, we will be travelling the week of March 30 to April 4. In the event that we don't, then we'll be here. What I'm doing is pencilling off those planned travel weeks, and I can't recall the second one offhand—

10:10 a.m.

The Clerk

It was April 6.

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

April 6, no, that week is not one of them. Anyway, pencil that week off and we can go from there.

I'm keeping our witnesses here. You are free to go. I apologize for that. Thanks again, gentlemen.

Mr. Mai.

10:10 a.m.

NDP

Hoang Mai NDP Brossard—La Prairie, QC

Just on that point of order on the travelling—and I understand your position with respect to travelling—did we confirm with respect to travelling to the U.S., because with a limited amount of time—

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Yes, we have.

10:10 a.m.

NDP

Hoang Mai NDP Brossard—La Prairie, QC

There's nothing we can do in terms of not doing that part of the travel?

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

The commitment, Mr. Mai, was to do it. If the committee wants to change that, fine, but the commitment was to do it. Okay?

Everybody have a good weekend.

The meeting is adjourned.