Okay. That's fair enough.
Maybe the opposition will want to clarify what standard they would like to move to if they are talking about a phase-out.
On the question of consultations, the minister has said on the public record that there are consultations with advisory councils here. She has a counterpart in the United States she's engaged with on the question of new standards. In the United States they have their own domestic internal process to arrive at a standard that involves a lot of players. It's not just rail companies, it's lease companies, it's a number of others. Presumably that includes manufacturers.
I'm going ask whether you've been consulted by Transport Canada in its process regarding possible new standards.