Thank you.
Mr. Boudreault, I want to touch on the safety management systems. I know that in regard to your testimony today one could walk away with the impression that there's absolutely no input on the safety management systems within the rail lines from the union perspective.
I actually had a fairly different experience when touring a fairly large rail facility in my riding with both the president of the company and the national president of the particular union representing the workers there. Both of them were talking very much about the safety management system and their collaboration on that, and how they work together. Is my experience there completely unique? Or is there some collaboration that maybe needs improvement? Or is there really just absolutely none?